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yarroway ([personal profile] yarroway) wrote2016-01-18 12:44 pm

Battle Creek

Did any of you watch it? It's on Netflix now and I'm up to episode 5. It's got Shore's fingerprints all over it. I mostly like it. The show's highlights are its comic moments. Also it's kind of cool to watch the Mayhem guy from those commercials in an actual show.

There's been one creepy moment in how the show treats women, but I think I just have to expect it from Shore.

[identity profile] jezziejay.livejournal.com 2016-01-18 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't seen it! But I am looking for something new to sink my teeth into. I don't know if you've been watching How to Make a Murderer, but I finished it last week and there's a Netflix hole in my life, so I could certainly give this a try if you're reccing it.

[identity profile] yarroway.livejournal.com 2016-01-18 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
You can't sink your teeth into BC. Or at least I can't. It's fun, and there is some more serious character stuff that's clumsily handled but interesting nonetheless. If that's your speed, then yes, this is a rec.

I'm not a fan of dark, grim shows and so I am avoiding how to make a murderer just based on the title.

[identity profile] jezziejay.livejournal.com 2016-01-18 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I might try Fargo then. Although maybe I'll give it try.

HtMaM is a documentary. It is absolutely excellent. But, ngl, it is grim. It's all anybody is talking about in work, at home, with my family, my friends, the cashiers in the supermarket...quite the craze!

[identity profile] blackmare.livejournal.com 2016-01-19 04:21 pm (UTC)(link)
If you haven't checked out Justified, I'll rec that. Six seasons (they wrapped it up on their own terms rather than allow it to spiral downward into cancellation), great cast, fantastic writing, often very very funny. And much of the humor is at the expense of our cowboy-cop protagonist, which is why I love this show when I am otherwise 100% done with cowboy-cop protagonists.*

The promo pics make you think it's a Western, but it's set in present-day Kentucky.

*unless they are named John McClane, in which case: Yippee kai yay, motherfucker.

[identity profile] cuddyclothes.livejournal.com 2016-01-18 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
The reviews turned me off. It got panned by the Times, if I recall.

[identity profile] yarroway.livejournal.com 2016-01-19 10:25 am (UTC)(link)
LOL. I love the Times for news, but in terms of art a pan from them generally means a thumbs up from me. It's fun to see that this still holds true.

[identity profile] blackmare.livejournal.com 2016-01-19 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
I saw the last fifteen or so minutes of the one RSL was on, and I watched it because I could so easily imagine this was Desperate!Wilson, holding the guy at gunpoint (hot hot hot), but the plot made NO SENSE WHATSOEVER. I mean, even in the few minutes I saw, it was: No. That would never ever fucking happen, EVER, suspension of disbelief totally gone; I expect (and get) much better thought-through scenarios from fanfic.

So I haven't tried to pick it up again.

But did I mention that angry, desperate, gun-wielding Wilson RSL is hot? I may have forgotten that part.

[identity profile] yarroway.livejournal.com 2016-01-19 10:41 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yes, it all makes absolutely no sense. The plots are so contrived, the way things happen is purely ridiculous. What saves it for me is that the show doesn't seem to take itself too seriously. Or maybe it's that it is so badly pieced together that I can't possibly take it seriously.

I saw the end of RSL's episode too, and loved it only because RSL. I am really looking forward to seeing that again.

Anyway, this isn't really a rec except that the show is much better than I feared it would be. But I get a kick out of it--out of seeing the House peoples' names in the credits and having a character proclaim that everybody lies and the way Milt always gets the credit and things always go badly for Russ and a secondary character's very troubled adopted son is named--of course-- Danny.

I got much less of a kick out of the way the Cuddy-equivalent's house was burned down by her ex in a sweet romantic gesture gone wrong and what she and we are supposed to take away from that is that she shuts people out too quickly.

Hopefully the remaining 8 episodes will focus on other characters and leave less time for Shore's dark side to come out.
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[identity profile] discofunction.livejournal.com 2016-01-19 03:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Desperate, angry, gun-wielding RSL is hot! But I was sort of annoyed that they only gave him a role with 5 mins of screen time. When they filmed that episode, they didn't know the show would be cancelled and if I were them, I would have saved RSL for a much more interesting long-term, recurring character!

(But that's just me...)

[identity profile] blackmare.livejournal.com 2016-01-19 04:14 pm (UTC)(link)
That was how I felt about the one episode of The Blacklist that I ever watched, which I watched because RSL!!! As a Bad Guy!!!

I liked it a lot better but was so sad they killed his character at the end of the episode, because if he'd been recurring, I might actually have started watching the show.

[identity profile] discofunction.livejournal.com 2016-01-19 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I watch the Blacklist. James Spader is excellent but the FBI agents are a bit...meh! But it has gotten better.

I LOVED RSL in it. Great character for him but yes- I was gutted that he was so underused and that he was killed off! Also that they never gave him a scene with Spader!! As I watch the show now, there are so many times where I think they could have bought back Frederick Barnes! Such a waste!

[identity profile] yarroway.livejournal.com 2016-01-19 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)

RSL was amazing. After so many inhuman monsters, he created a very human one.
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[identity profile] nightdog-barks.livejournal.com 2016-01-19 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't realize that was the Mayhem guy! Huh.

I watched the first episode of Battle Creek (and the second) but it didn't spark my interest enough to continue. But I did watch the episode that RSL appeared in and liked that.

Which ... looking at IMDB, turned out to be the series finale. Oops.

[identity profile] yarroway.livejournal.com 2016-01-19 10:57 am (UTC)(link)
I always had a thing for the Mayhem guy. :)

[identity profile] blackmare.livejournal.com 2016-01-19 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Seconding. Mayhem is hot.

[identity profile] srsly-yes.livejournal.com 2016-01-19 07:51 am (UTC)(link)
Because I was a fan of the leads and Kal Penn I watched the first episode. If it were any other showrunner I might have stayed a little while longer, but it didn't seem special enough. There's no question in my mind that if the show had found traction Shore would have crapped all over the project within 2 - 4 years.

Of course, RSL's appearance in the finale ensured my return. While, some critics lauded it, I thought it was a mess.

This was one of the many reasons I pulled the plug on my cable.

[identity profile] yarroway.livejournal.com 2016-01-19 11:03 am (UTC)(link)
I hear you. I wasn't going to go anywhere near BC until it was cancelled for exactly that reason.

[identity profile] blackmare.livejournal.com 2016-01-19 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
It is really nice to know I'm not the only one who saw Shore's name on this thing and immediately filed it under Do Not Get Invested. I feel somewhat less weird now.

[identity profile] menolly-au.livejournal.com 2016-01-19 10:32 am (UTC)(link)
Just had a look but it's not on Netflix here. Oh well, at least we have Netflix in Australia now - we're making progress!

[identity profile] yarroway.livejournal.com 2016-01-19 11:04 am (UTC)(link)
It's not must-see TV. I was just curious if anyone else had watched.

[identity profile] discofunction.livejournal.com 2016-01-19 03:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I watched it. I actually quite enjoyed it. It's very easy to watch, light entertainment. I don't think it was amazing TV but I did quite enjoy the episodes. It sort of reminded me of Due South (which I loved...) but I'm not surprised it got cancelled. There were some errors and I think people were just hoping for more from Vince Gilligan and David Shore...

[identity profile] yarroway.livejournal.com 2016-01-19 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's my take as well. As I said above, half the fun for me is catching all the bits they repeated from House.

Did you see any similarities between Guziewicz and Cuddy, and Holly and Cameron? I do, in broad terms, but I'm not sure if that's just because I am expecting to see them or because they're really there.

[identity profile] discofunction.livejournal.com 2016-01-19 04:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes I can see similarities I guess.
I liked all the characters in Battle reek, I think they had a lot of potential with them. They just didn't really seem to get there with any of them though. Perhaps it would have improved if there had been a Season 2?!

[identity profile] sassyjumper.livejournal.com 2016-01-20 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Hmmm, I've never seen BC because I don't have a TV. I do, however, have Netflix, so I might give it a try. I'd at least like to see the RSL episode, because I saw photos and ... floppy hair, forearms, gun. I'm deep.

[identity profile] yarroway.livejournal.com 2016-01-20 01:37 pm (UTC)(link)
There's also an episode with PJ. He was very good, and it was nice to see him again.

[identity profile] taiga13.livejournal.com 2016-01-20 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't seen it, but I'll second Blackmare's rec for Justified. It's absolutely wonderful. Main character is male but the female characters are actually PEOPLE, strong people at that.